CarTcell

Anyone care to offer an opinion on this? This cartilage liquid extract has
angiogenesis poperties and I am considering ordering it for my mom (she has
metastaic disease from her salivary gland cancer).
Thanks in advance.

4 Responses to “CarTcell”

  1. admin says:

    In article <20000105225309.01140.00000…@ng-fu1.aol.com>,

    JJClark611 <jjclark…@aol.com> wrote:
    >Anyone care to offer an opinion on this? This cartilage liquid extract has
    >angiogenesis poperties and I am considering ordering it for my mom (she has
    >metastaic disease from her salivary gland cancer).
    >Thanks in advance.

    Even if it has anti-angiogenesis properties, they are unlikely to be
    orally available.  Are you going to inject it, or perhaps take it as
    an enema?

    I think you would be better off going with an anti-angiogenesis approach
    that we know is orally available, like tea, fish oil, thalidomide,
    COX-2 inhibitors, etc.  

    Most anti-angiogenesis claims I have heard for cartilage point to either
    proteins, which are unlikely to be orally available in appreciable quantities,
    or to competitive inhibition of collegenase by collagen of course.  This
    would require large quantities to have any chance of working.  I believe
    the cartilage derived agent which is currently in trials is administered
    via injection.   — Martin

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  2. admin says:

    Martin,

    Thank you for your reply. The firm which distributes this product would have my
    mom on a 3 month supply, taken in viles.
    As you have mentioned, it would have to be in large doses, which I assume it
    will be. Does this shed any light for this product?

  3. admin says:

    In article <20000106124745.14083.00000…@ng-ca1.aol.com>,

    JJClark611 <jjclark…@aol.com> wrote:
    >Martin,

    >Thank you for your reply. The firm which distributes this product would have my
    >mom on a 3 month supply, taken in viles.
    >As you have mentioned, it would have to be in large doses, which I assume it
    >will be. Does this shed any light for this product?

    yes, it seems it will probably be unpleasant to take.  What are they
    saying the likely side effects are?  Have they told you to expect the
    slow or halted healing that most scientists predict for successful
    antiangiogenesis therapy?  If they aren’t then they aren’t very
    knowledgable about the mechanism they are proposing.  Are they able to
    point to studies showing any biological activity from their method of
    administration as there is for fish oil and ice tea?  Fish oil omega 3
    fatty acids have been shown to have anti-inflamatory and platelet
    effects when taken orally, tea has been shown to have blood lipid
    antioxident effects when taken orally.  Thus the components proposed to have
    anti-angiogenic benefits are shown to at least get into the blood stream.

    What is their route of administration?  – Martin

    Personal, not work info:         Martin E. Lewitt             My opinions are
    Domain: lew…@swcp.com          P.O. Box 729                 my own, not my
    Hm phone:  (505) 281-3248        Sandia Park, NM 87047-0729   employer’s.

  4. admin says:

    JJClark611 wrote:
    > Anyone care to offer an opinion on this? This cartilage liquid extract has
    > angiogenesis poperties and I am considering ordering it for my mom (she has
    > metastaic disease from her salivary gland cancer).
    > Thanks in advance.

      It’s worth a try if you can afford it.

    It is the very same extract from which the promising new cancer drug
    Neovastat is made.

    Tony

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